this is p much literally just about puttng clits and labias on “valves”, that’s literally it, I’m not sure how it’d be hard to even consider turning that down a notch. I sincerely do not. at all. but hey.

maybe I’ll get to unanswered messages in a bit

No, that makes sense. But I mean, at least in my experience, a huge part of the creative fandom seem to be girls and dfab — can one say cisfeminine? is that a thing? or genderqueer but i mean, uh, the point is that it kind of makes sense that these peeps create stuff that is more familiar to them? Though iiiit would probably be good if people like… tagged different genital configurations? Would that suffice?

Cis female/ cis women is probably more on the mark. 

I don’t see why “it makes sense that these peeps create stuff that is more familiar to them" changes anything? At all? That helps absolutely none. That helps less than none. I have literally no idea why I should feel better about that, or how that even makes sense as something I SHOULD feel better about or change my mind in the absolute least. “Oh, I’m in tears and feel like I’ve been punched in the gut, but at least someone’s getting off. Really makes it all worth it, if you ask me.” Whatever.

oh, assuming that last anon was the person who just put up a question (and… assuming they’ll see this I guess?), sorry for assuming you were trying to “trap” me or something. “Fool me once,” y’know?

good luck with the survey friend (uh, assuming that IS you)

For clarity’s sake: do you take issue with directly vagina-equivalent valves, but not directly dick-equivalent spikes?

Forgive me for feeling like this is a leading question, but yes, the first one. And, apologies again, but if this is meant as a leading question, I’d hope one could figure out why one might trigger massively greater amounts of dysphoria in a trans man or dfab transmasculine person than the other

it’s neat when people give at least some level of abstraction to both, but eh

Is the issue about TF genitalia? Like I know the valve/spike combination is really popular right now.

it would be, yes, but I felt like it applied on a more general level too

valve/spike combo has been a thing for a while, the problem is that it seems like somewhere in the last year-or-less, valves that were explicitly-a-vagina-we’re-not-even-trying-anymore-you-guys have gone from being a once-in-a-while thing to something I’m seeing almost constantly?? Just piling on different aspects until it’s something utterly impossible to suspend disbelief on and/or mentally protect oneself about

like.

guys.

GUYS.

Aww, man, come on, don’t put me on blast like that. I sent it before you added that extra context there, and I did retract it the moment I saw it. Tumblr makes me itchy whenever someone makes a statement like that because I’ve started to expect having 0 reason/logic to an arguement.

mrbutts:

:/

that’s why I included the bit about sitting back and thinking about the viewpoints and life experiences of the person who made the initial comment

I’ve seen a whole lot of arguments on why X is offensive or why you shouldn’t do Y that looked ridiculous to me, but then I sat back and thought about it. I thought about what the person saying it goes through. I thought about how that person must feel having to navigate their own personal barrage of bullshit based on who they are and their position in society.

Whether or not I initially thought their argument had any merit, I sat down and tried to see exactly where they were coming from and ran through their position to the best of my abilities, because every single person on the opposite side of the computer screen is a person, and, as such, I think they deserve that basic respect and consideration. I also think it’s not on that person to sit me down and explain why they said the things they did, because, honestly, it’s not that hard to figure things out if you actually sit down and try.

I’ve done that a lot in the past year, and I think I’ve learned to empathize with a lot more people about a lot more things. And, on the occasions where I end up still disagreeing with the person, I’ve still given them and their standpoint the bare-minimum respect of trying to understand based on information I have instead of just dismissing them outright because the things they said either didn’t make immediate sense to me or were inconvenient. And, honestly, even if I don’t end up agreeing with them, I can end up seeing the logic behind them saying what they did. Essentially, I get itchy when someone makes the statement that they’re used to seeing arguments with absolutely no logic behind them on tumblr, and that’s why.

…and I don’t see how treating a subject with respect shouldn’t inherently include reflecting on things like that. Asking yourself if this cis portrayal of a trans body is going to, say, trigger some kind of horrible dysphoria or something. Something like that. Just as a random example. So that would be why I’ve still got that bit of skepticism in me.

(ok I assumed the ask was to THIS blog but then it posted to my main and I don’t even know what’s happening anymore, I’m so confused I’m just gonna put this here)

I retract my earlier ask, thanks for adding more context.

oh, no probs

…but if I can just say, if your first reaction to a minority saying “maybe don’t do this” is less “oh, let me sit back and consider your point of view/life experience and consider your reasons behind saying that” and more “seems like CENSORSHIP,” then I’m gonna have a harder time believing you are going to approach the subject with respect

(or even tw shit but hey)

mrbutts:

mrbutts:

tbh cis people should stick to drawing/writing porn of cis bodies

realtalk, if cis people can’t be responsible enough to draw porn of trans or intersex bodies without it being motivated by blatant fetishism or without the artists being very obviously disinterested with how the actual people feel about being portrayed/what their work does to them emotionally and psychologically, I am gonna have to go ahead and suggest you stay in your own lane

life is bad and trends in fandom porn are putting my mental well-being into a horrible, horrible place for the sake of other people’s apparent fetishes

but

I painted a one of my custom robots yesterday, I bet I could pour the hate into his tiny body instead

this is the absolute definition of health

sometimes

sometimes

sometimes I think it might not be the worst thing in the world if I was in an alien fandom where the majority of the gay porn was drawn/written by cis dudes

like you can rag on ‘em all you want but there’s one thing I ain’t caught ’em doin so far