Is that the same person who claimed it was transmisogyny to use the words prissy and woobie? They’re not even transfeminine. Talk about reaching for the stars.

I… I didn’t read those posts but that sounds like them? The person who also says it’s transmisogynist to read SS as anything but a trans woman robot, and when talking about Arcee’s unfortunately obligatory action-lady-in-a-boy-show “not like other girl” moments, somehow decided that wasn’t internalized misogyny, but was “transmasculine” instead…? Because they also mentioned SS and transmisogyny, and I guess they wanted to force some kinda badguy in there whether or not that was weird and transphobic and misgendering on a coupla levels.

Like as far as I’ve seen, they’re in that one circlejerky group of nb people in the fandom who shit on trans men/say pronounswapping he/him tfs isn’t misgendering and justify it by the same “trans women have it worse, shut the fuck up ARE YOU SOME KIND OF TRANSMISOGYNIST,” like holy shit what even. I’ve found more than one pocket of nb people who act like that, and my agender brojunx who’s more out and about in the trans community says he’s found LOTS like that, and I… don’t get it? Trans dudes aren’t perfect, I don’t speak for trans women, PLEASE call me out if I’m out of line, but.. there’s something so, so skeevy about a group whose support for the most marginalized part of the LGBT+ community seems to begin and end at telling other marginalized people that they don’t have it as bad? Like holy creepy appropriation for the purpose of obvious silencing and abuse tactics, Batman. 

Not implying that the majority of nonbinary people are anything like that at all, I love the shit outta youse guys. Or that bringing up trans women’s struggles isn’t important because, no, it DEFINITELY is, it’s just… really skeevy when they’re being brought up just to shoot someone else down for completely unrelated reasons. IDK. I just feel like transmisogyny is a SUPER SERIOUS ACCUSATION that ABSOLUTELY needs to be taken very seriously when it’s brought up, but… “stop telling me it’s triggering to people from all across the trans spectrum to purposefully misgender characters, you can’t misgender men, I can’t believe I’m being attacked by yet another transmisogynist transman plot to take over the tf fandom” SEEMS SUPER DUPER HARD TO JUSTIFY.

I used to think that anal was only great for cis guys (this was before Tumblr so it was just guys) but I recently starting testing the waters after having a discussion about robot anal. Transformers changed me.

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that prostate stimulation is something that’s way less focused on in irl anal than in fics written about cis guys that weren’t written by cis guys

and you know what

I got this message four times in a row

as someone who is a guy who is not cis

let me just say 

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I meant would you like more explicit anal in Transformers fan fiction? I like that, like, anal fingering requires lube and preparation. I used to be in fandoms with m/m and anal and the fan art had toys and stuff meant for butt use.

I would, unless that fic makes it clear there’s more than one hole (if we’re talking m/m) and then that turns the opposite way real quick. But Butt stuff is basically my FAVORITE stuff, and robots are basically my FAVORITE and HOTTEST thing, so OBVIOUSLY this is a match made in the best of all heavens.

I was fine interpreting ambiguously-coded self-lubricating valves as that, but yeah, honestly I think that every part of the prepwork that goes into that stuff is hot. The extra steps build up the scene and what’s happening, describing lube being applied on things is hot, describing lube being applied in things in any various way is real hot, I feel like both of those do an amazing job of building up the payoff of the bit where they get to the penetration, even if it only ever gets up to fingers. Describing the fingering is almost always super hot whether it’s from the perspective of the party doing the fingering or being on the receiving end of it.

…I do give fics the benefit of the doubt when they go straight for the butt without any of that and no adverse results are mentioned, but I also do like how things are when it specifically describes little to no prep, anything from brief discomfort to full-out pain and, goddammit, I’m an increasingly sadistic masochist and the fact that stuff like that can be done so easily is the fucking best. Arrest me. I know it’s not everyone’s bag, but in my personal experience the way things (w/o good prepwork) literally can start off as “oh god the pain is unbearable I fucked up” then transition to being a mind-blowing full-body thing just a little bit later is my ABSOLUTE JAM.

Also jesus I have a big kink for toys in that context. That seems like it should be way too generic to be a kink but that just ramps things up a lot, especially when it’s not just a solo thing. There’s something about the very deliberate degree of separation between the two (or more) parties, where one (or more) isn’t even doing it for their own immediate physical pleasure. But I feel like I’m getting off track.

I like butts. I like robot buttholes. I read some super old fics where they’re explained as exhaust ports or something and given a little description and actual reason to be there that kinda fleshed the whole deal out, I liked it. 

Asses aren’t even always the nicest and safest places to ram yourself into, but they didn’t really shy away from kind of showing it in the same raw, sloppy, visceral way you get when you watch a low-res video of two hairy truck-driver-looking motherfuckers going at it in a dirty motel on an amateur porn site. 

I… I don’t know if you do. I do. I feel like I should have stopped already.

I uh, I apologize for taking the first ask and making it a half-related essay, I’ve been a little bit defensive. Thank you for encouraging me to write an entire, too-long post about buttfuckin’.

HM, would you like to share your thoughts on bumsex in the context of Transformers?

!!!!

Are you sure this is your question? Are you sure you didn’t want to ask me about my stance on chocolate icecream cake? Or free money? You want to ask me about robot assfucking??!

My thoughts on it is that it’s the A+ #1 absolute best thing ever. It’s the thing I was waiting for my whole life. It was a huge part of why I got into this fandom, because finally I’d found a place with THE EXACT BEST COMBINATION OF ALL MY WANTS AND NEEDS.

A place that catered to all of my needs. A place that made me comfortable

Lemme first say that these are my feelings as a trans person. A transgender person who experiences anywhere from mild to severe bottom dysphoria (a link, since a lot of people seemed genuinely baffled by the very concept) depending on my current headspace. And, LBH, robuttfuckin’, as far as things drawn by cis artists, is the only way to be/pretty much the only way I feel comfortable anymore now that the overwhelming majority of cis artists don’t think it’s good enough anymore to leave a valve as an ambiguous, alien, self-lubricating orifice where the viewer can make their own decision on if they want to mentally superimpose any array of their favorite human-based holes onto the scene or just sit back and appreciate alien sex for alien sex. In that context, it’s something that makes a lot of sense in the context of a fandom that, like pretty much every other fandom, has mainly m/m ships, where this is an established thing for the grand majority of m/m porn.

…Unless we’re talking about artists/writers whose bodies and/or identities are not cisnormative, in which case they are in the place to make that decision on whether they want to tilt that anatomy towards a less-ambiguous representation and make that into a body more coded like their own, to own their bodies and their sexuality, to present a body that empowers and validates the never-catered-to. That is something worthy of high respect. That, as opposed to a cis person who is doing it first and foremost to represent themselves and has absolutely no interest in staying in their own lane. The stance and motivations of that second party were made very, very clear by how that cis part of the fandom chose to respond to the thoughts of a transgender person whose experiences conflicted with what they chose to believe was the absolute singular valid trans opinion on the subject. I.E., the one most convenient for them. They are confirming and re-confirming that I should not trust cisgender people to hold transgender people’s wellbeing in mind unless it directly benefits them.

…..But those are just my thoughts.

I really don’t know how you intended me to interpret the question and, forgive me here, but given the shit that’s been happening it felt the teeniest bit like a leading question, so I tried dipping into a couple of different response choices. 

I also hope I was able to make it clear that these replies are based on what makes me comfortable as a trans person. They are a product of my own experiences, are only meant to represent one subset of trans experiences, and in no way, shape, or form meant to imply trans people and trans bodies are anything less than valid and beautiful by default. No matter what kind they are, and regardless of whether the person loves the form that their body has already taken or has decided that they want to change things to reflect what they feel is the truest version of themselves.

ahh im sorry i dont want to, add to any grief people might be giving you about fictional genitals but jsut to add that personally bein not cis (agender/nb) I hated my body and sexual self before consuming tf porn. The general positive and healthy depiction of organic genitals I resonated with then did rly great things for me healthwise. Therefore in that same vein I appreciate the need for nsfw material that resonates with you physically/emotionally/mentally and I’m sorry if its scarce atm xx

Actually I’m REALLY glad to hear that, I assumed it might be a good thing for some trans people and I’m glad that that’s true. Also, thank you for being so understanding.

No, that makes sense. But I mean, at least in my experience, a huge part of the creative fandom seem to be girls and dfab — can one say cisfeminine? is that a thing? or genderqueer but i mean, uh, the point is that it kind of makes sense that these peeps create stuff that is more familiar to them? Though iiiit would probably be good if people like… tagged different genital configurations? Would that suffice?

Cis female/ cis women is probably more on the mark. 

I don’t see why “it makes sense that these peeps create stuff that is more familiar to them" changes anything? At all? That helps absolutely none. That helps less than none. I have literally no idea why I should feel better about that, or how that even makes sense as something I SHOULD feel better about or change my mind in the absolute least. “Oh, I’m in tears and feel like I’ve been punched in the gut, but at least someone’s getting off. Really makes it all worth it, if you ask me.” Whatever.

For clarity’s sake: do you take issue with directly vagina-equivalent valves, but not directly dick-equivalent spikes?

Forgive me for feeling like this is a leading question, but yes, the first one. And, apologies again, but if this is meant as a leading question, I’d hope one could figure out why one might trigger massively greater amounts of dysphoria in a trans man or dfab transmasculine person than the other

it’s neat when people give at least some level of abstraction to both, but eh

Aww, man, come on, don’t put me on blast like that. I sent it before you added that extra context there, and I did retract it the moment I saw it. Tumblr makes me itchy whenever someone makes a statement like that because I’ve started to expect having 0 reason/logic to an arguement.

mrbutts:

:/

that’s why I included the bit about sitting back and thinking about the viewpoints and life experiences of the person who made the initial comment

I’ve seen a whole lot of arguments on why X is offensive or why you shouldn’t do Y that looked ridiculous to me, but then I sat back and thought about it. I thought about what the person saying it goes through. I thought about how that person must feel having to navigate their own personal barrage of bullshit based on who they are and their position in society.

Whether or not I initially thought their argument had any merit, I sat down and tried to see exactly where they were coming from and ran through their position to the best of my abilities, because every single person on the opposite side of the computer screen is a person, and, as such, I think they deserve that basic respect and consideration. I also think it’s not on that person to sit me down and explain why they said the things they did, because, honestly, it’s not that hard to figure things out if you actually sit down and try.

I’ve done that a lot in the past year, and I think I’ve learned to empathize with a lot more people about a lot more things. And, on the occasions where I end up still disagreeing with the person, I’ve still given them and their standpoint the bare-minimum respect of trying to understand based on information I have instead of just dismissing them outright because the things they said either didn’t make immediate sense to me or were inconvenient. And, honestly, even if I don’t end up agreeing with them, I can end up seeing the logic behind them saying what they did. Essentially, I get itchy when someone makes the statement that they’re used to seeing arguments with absolutely no logic behind them on tumblr, and that’s why.

…and I don’t see how treating a subject with respect shouldn’t inherently include reflecting on things like that. Asking yourself if this cis portrayal of a trans body is going to, say, trigger some kind of horrible dysphoria or something. Something like that. Just as a random example. So that would be why I’ve still got that bit of skepticism in me.

(ok I assumed the ask was to THIS blog but then it posted to my main and I don’t even know what’s happening anymore, I’m so confused I’m just gonna put this here)

I retract my earlier ask, thanks for adding more context.

oh, no probs

…but if I can just say, if your first reaction to a minority saying “maybe don’t do this” is less “oh, let me sit back and consider your point of view/life experience and consider your reasons behind saying that” and more “seems like CENSORSHIP,” then I’m gonna have a harder time believing you are going to approach the subject with respect

(or even tw shit but hey)